More evidence of a stolen election

thanks to the kind folks at DU for this info

Published on November 6, 2004 By bleedingheartliberal In Politics

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At that link, provided by the folks at DU, one can find the official county by county vote tallies from Florida in a compact database. However, if one goes down to the "op-scan" section, interesting irregularities begin to show in the numbers. For example: look at Liberty County...Calhoun County...Taylor County...Bradford County...just to name a few. I think you all get the point by this time.

*update

Just to let all you right-wingers know, this is issue is about to explode:

1) Three congressmen have signed on to a letter demanding an investigation.
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2)Blackboxvoting.org has filed a massive freedom of information act claim on Florida, and I am proud to say that I donated to help further that cause, and I encourage anyone who feels like this matter needs to be investigated to do the same. (Thank you Mrs. Rhodes)
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3)The left is not going to sit by while the millions of people who voted for Senator Kerry are disenfranchised.

Comments (Page 4)

drmiler

on Nov 07, 2004

Reply #46 By: bleedingheartliberal - 11/7/2004 9:24:13 AM
It's not a matter of every single vote in contention going to Kerry, you are missing the point. It's a matter of hackers potentially hacking into the voting machines in Florida and fouling up the results. There is a growing amount of evidence that points to massive fraud.

For those interested, BlackBoxVoting.org is beginning to compile evidence.
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Zoomba, the "worst candidate possible" got more votes than any democrat in the history of this country.

"When" they can confirm this, *then* I'll believe it. Until then, bugger off mate! Your handle says it all!

nyvelion

on Nov 07, 2004

I think the election was stolen, but not from Kerry. It's very one dementional thinking in politics that seems common in many of you to beleive that Kerry and Bush were the only ones who could win.

This article is evidence of the real winner -->
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s9i6911

T B

on Nov 07, 2004

Link 3 shows a total of 7,588,422. Link 2 shows a total of 7,350,900 from all the counties. If you subtract those numbers, there is a difference of 237,522 votes. Where did all the extra votes come from? Somebody please tell me, there might be a valid explanation....

First of all, what does it say at the top of each of those pages? UNOFFICIAL RESULTS. Might you imagine that has something to do with it? The provisional ballot page clearly shows NOT ALL the counties were counted yet (and likely won't be because they don't count them when the outcome is not in question). The second link (the one to this page 1st SET OF UNOFFICIAL RETURNS) has OLD numbers on it (or maybe these are the newer numbers and the last link has the older ones) . Many of the counties have their own "Supervisor of Elections" pages and guess what, the numbers DON'T MATCH what is reported at the central site (in some instances even the number of registered voters don't match, nor do the turnout percentages). In some instances the number of votes cast (at the county sites) is now greater than the number of votes (the number of valid votes is less than those cast, it would be plausible to expect the system takes time to weed out the fraudulent ones). It would also be plausible that the priority is not updating the data reported on the websites because the ELECTION IS OVER and they may still be counting and verifying the votes (some results were updated on the 5th).

From the Escambia County Page:
We are not responsible for missing or incorrect information on these pages, we do our best to keep information current but mistakes can be made.

For those interested, BlackBoxVoting.org is beginning to compile evidence.

Where? I didn't see any hard evidence. I looked at (among other things) the "trouble slips", the sum total of evidence is "HAD TROUBLE CONNECTING" WOW!! that's some revelation. I never have trouble connecting to my ISP. There are some cute pictures of the software engineers and plenty of innuendo. I don't think it's a bad thing that there is an organization putting pressure on possible system flaws, it can only help (BTW much of their "evidence" is from 2001, I wouldn't hold out for a change in this election outcome).

From Blackbox:

Since RAS is not adequately protected, anyone in the world, even terrorists, who can figure out the server's phone number can change vote totals without being detected by observers.

Right. A significant number of people can't program their VCR's or DVD players but they can change the votes. Are we supposed to believe that terrorists or hackers would dial in and change votes IN FAVOR of Bush? Maybe it was those 527's, Anarchists for Bush or Al Qaeda for Bush. This reminds me of the O.J. defense, random arrows in numerous directions to cause doubt (somebody will buy some of it). Wonder if Johnnie Cochran is on the Blackbox board. Problem is, the burden of proof is on them (and they've got about 36 days left), it's not enough to cause some doubt.

Cappy1507

on Nov 07, 2004

Reply #16 By: CrispE - 11/6/2004 11:21:35 AM
drmiler:

Once again, you question whether abuses occur, even when your own party MADE THE ACCUSATIONS in many cases?! When are you going to realize that an election manipulated in any way is wrong?

Blakbox.org is a non-partisan organization.

And who do you think is going to make the accusations, the Republicans? Since there seems to be questions, especially one machine in Franklin county, why aren't THEY looking into it? There have been thousands of complaints, logged on the 2nd before the outcome was known, by people that voted for Kerry on one type of touch screen ballot machine, and saw their ballot cast for Bush despite punching the Kerry button.

Daiwa

on Nov 07, 2004

There have been thousands of complaints, logged on the 2nd before the outcome was known, by people that voted for Kerry on one type of touch screen ballot machine, and saw their ballot cast for Bush despite punching the Kerry button.

Can you give us any details about this, Cappy? Thousands?

Cheers,
Daiwa

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