More evidence of a stolen election

thanks to the kind folks at DU for this info

Published on November 6, 2004 By bleedingheartliberal In Politics

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At that link, provided by the folks at DU, one can find the official county by county vote tallies from Florida in a compact database. However, if one goes down to the "op-scan" section, interesting irregularities begin to show in the numbers. For example: look at Liberty County...Calhoun County...Taylor County...Bradford County...just to name a few. I think you all get the point by this time.

*update

Just to let all you right-wingers know, this is issue is about to explode:

1) Three congressmen have signed on to a letter demanding an investigation.
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2)Blackboxvoting.org has filed a massive freedom of information act claim on Florida, and I am proud to say that I donated to help further that cause, and I encourage anyone who feels like this matter needs to be investigated to do the same. (Thank you Mrs. Rhodes)
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3)The left is not going to sit by while the millions of people who voted for Senator Kerry are disenfranchised.

Comments (Page 2)

whoman69

on Nov 06, 2004

Whats the matter? Don't think a Democrat would EVER vote for a Republican? mhahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Whoa, that's convincing. Sure there are Dems that vote the other way, just as there are Reps that do. However none so evident as in FL where Democratic strongholds vote Republican with over 66% of the vote. Is there anywhere in the country you would expect a county that is over 80% partisan one way based on registrations, to turn into a 2/3 mandate for the other side?

Draginol

on Nov 06, 2004

So this is what our liberal users are reduced to? Grasping at phantom conspiracies. Somehow, the new world order of the Bush administration seeded rural counties across America with special voting machines. Truly sad.

Chemicalkinetics

on Nov 06, 2004

This is exactly why the Democrat has lost. They do not face the truth. When 1960 Nixon lost to Kennedy by 0.2 %. He didn't ask for recount. Is there any reason why Democrat is the only party cry foul all the time? Bush defeats Kerry by 5%. It is a solid lead. Not a landslide, but a solid lead.

Whoman, I am not surprise democrats votefor republican candidate in large number. First, we have more regristrated Democrats in this country than Republican by 10% or more. If democrats do not vote republican, there is no way a republican president can be elected. Second, democrats in the south tend to vote democrat statewide but republican nationwide. To give you an example, this is the first year a republican has won a Senate seat in Louisiana. You did think every souls in Louisiana are republicans if you only look at the presidential election result in the last 20 years. The truth is that southern democrats vote for republican president, but they still identify themselves as democrat because of the local election.

nyvelion

on Nov 06, 2004

I think everyone is ignoring the real winner of this election. http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i6896

whoman69

on Nov 06, 2004

The reason that Nixon did not protest the results is because his complicity would be brought to the front as well as the other side. The reason Republicans can win elections is that in most states the number of voters for any party is under 40% and the independents make the difference. Nationally the average is that close to 90 % of those who consider themselves Democrat vote Democrat, and the same for Republicans.

msladydeath

on Nov 06, 2004

Reply #21 By: nyvelion - 11/6/2004 1:56:22 PM
I think everyone is ignoring the real winner of this election. http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i6896

ROFLMBO Sharpton for Prez!!!!! Where the heck is my chicken and buscuts!!

T B

on Nov 06, 2004

The fact that across the country that partsians regularly voted over 90% for their party candidate for President means nothing, huh.

I'd like to know where this number came from, and what the standard deviation is (can you direct me to the data set?)

As you can see by the threads, our conservative friends don't care if abuses occured

Hey, if abuses occured I'm more than willing to look at it and speak up about it. From my cursory evaluation of the data I'm certainly not finding anything conclusive. It's curious that the smaller (around 30,000) counties (regardles of machine used) appear to exhibit the SAME behavior, ref. Sumter and Nassau. The fact that there are only 15 data points for the E-touch machine render it statistically useless in the overall picture. Additionally, it appears that the smaller counties are predominantly white (85 to 90%, again this is cursory). A quick check of the FEMA disaster maps for hurricanes Ivan, Jeanne, Frances, Charley and storm Bonnie seem to be indicating a possible correlation between counties receiving FEMA assistance (for individuals and households) and USDA farm service assitance with the purported anomalous counties. It also appears that the "expected vote" numbers are questionable (at best), based on their data, it looks like they "EXPECTED" the percent turnout to match exactly along party lines (ex: Baker county expected Dems is 77% [the turnout percent] of the total registered Dems in the county, or 77% of 8931 registered Dems). We already know the Republican turnout for the first time in history MATCHED the Democrat turnout nationally (37% to 37%, that is 37% of the national vote was Dem and 37% was Rep).

It also doesn't appear to me that these individuals were attempting to perform an objective statistical analysis but were rather attempting to correlate something that they WANTED to be correlated (which would explain why other possible factors were not introduced, or apparently even looked at). Scatter diagrams are not particularly useful except to determine possible intial correlation or used as an indicator as to whether or not to perform a more comprehensive analysis.

Grim Xiozan

on Nov 06, 2004

I'd like to know where this number came from, and what the standard deviation is (can you direct me to the data set?)

I would like to know too!!

Last time I heard there is only 40% of the whole nation that professes to be either a Democrat or Republican the rest considers them self independent or non-party affiliated. Unless I am mistaken and every other person I meet is a Rep or Dem, I think not!!

Plinko for the Lunar Lunacy!!

drmiler

on Nov 06, 2004

Reply #18 By: whoman69 - 11/6/2004 12:37:54 PM
Whats the matter? Don't think a Democrat would EVER vote for a Republican? mhahahahahahahahaha!!!!
< However none so evident as in FL where Democratic strongholds vote Republican with over 66% of the vote. Is there anywhere in the country you would expect a county that is over 80% partisan one way based on registrations, to turn into a 2/3 mandate for the other side?

Do you have "proof" to the contrary?

bleedingheartliberal

on Nov 06, 2004

I believe he is saying that OF the part of the country that is registered as a party member, be it 40 percent, or what have you. 90 percent of those 40 percent party registrants voted down party lines.

Independent1

on Nov 06, 2004

"The telling statistic is not in the turnout, its in the results. Calhoun county has 82% of those registered as Democrat and only 11 % Republican and Bush pulls 63% of the votes? Duval county has 37 % Republicans compared to 46 % Democrats and Bush pulls almost 60% of the votes? Even in counties won by Kerry, its not by the margin one would expect. Gadsen county 83% registered Democrats compared to 11% Republican, and Kerry can only get 70 % of the vote? Less than 3000 registered Republicans in that county and yet in the final vote talley, Bush received over 6000 votes."

I think you would need more supporting evidence. If you saw those kind of differences validated with exit polls you would have a huge case. Don't underestimate the power of this years FEMA money. When it was flowing one thing the news was questioning was the amount that went to counties that were relatively unaffected. Put yourself in these voters shoes and you might see why a democrat there voting republican might not be such an anomaly.

T B

on Nov 06, 2004

90 percent of those 40 percent party registrants voted down party lines

That's the way I read it also. However, I could not subtantiate the claim, which is why I asked where to find the data set.

Daiwa

on Nov 06, 2004

You're in a deep hole and what do you do? Call for more shovels.

See you in China.

Cheers,
Daiwa

whoman69

on Nov 06, 2004

Here you go. Partisans vote for their own party 90% of the time.

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drmiler

on Nov 06, 2004

Reply #30 By: Daiwa - 11/6/2004 8:54:12 PM
You're in a deep hole and what do you do? Call for more shovels.

See you in China.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Nah, he called for a steam shovel!

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