More evidence of a stolen election

thanks to the kind folks at DU for this info

Published on November 6, 2004 By bleedingheartliberal In Politics

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At that link, provided by the folks at DU, one can find the official county by county vote tallies from Florida in a compact database. However, if one goes down to the "op-scan" section, interesting irregularities begin to show in the numbers. For example: look at Liberty County...Calhoun County...Taylor County...Bradford County...just to name a few. I think you all get the point by this time.

*update

Just to let all you right-wingers know, this is issue is about to explode:

1) Three congressmen have signed on to a letter demanding an investigation.
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2)Blackboxvoting.org has filed a massive freedom of information act claim on Florida, and I am proud to say that I donated to help further that cause, and I encourage anyone who feels like this matter needs to be investigated to do the same. (Thank you Mrs. Rhodes)
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3)The left is not going to sit by while the millions of people who voted for Senator Kerry are disenfranchised.

Comments (Page 3)

drmiler

on Nov 06, 2004

Reply #31 By: whoman69 - 11/6/2004 9:06:27 PM
Here you go. Partisans vote for their own party 90% of the time

that may be. But you have no "proof" that they did any more than we have proof they didn't

Chemicalkinetics

on Nov 06, 2004

The reason that Nixon did not protest the results is because his complicity would be brought to the front as well as the other side. The reason Republicans can win elections is that in most states the number of voters for any party is under 40% and the independents make the difference. Nationally the average is that close to 90 % of those who consider themselves Democrat vote Democrat, and the same for Republicans.

The facts that Democrat vote 90% for a democratic candidate is only true this election. In many previous election, Democrats often vote republican for president. Remember the term, Reagan Democrats? Look at the voting pattern in 1984, 1988, 1992.

Cappy1507

on Nov 06, 2004

What i also care about is people who just cant accept defeat, that just cant believe it could have happened if cheating DIDNT occur. People who cant understand the math....that even if all these "suspicious" counties or whatever went 100% to Kerry, it still wouldnt have been enough for a win.

Just to play devils advocate, lets say that information is uncovered that Bush lost Ohio AND Florida due to voting irregularities, if not out right fraud. Which would give Kerry 299 in the EC.

What would you suggest Bush do?

chiprj

on Nov 06, 2004

Maybe we should dump the electoral college and use exit polls to elect the president...

Chemicalkinetics

on Nov 06, 2004

Depends when they find out. If they find out in the next month or so. Bush should step down. If they find out in 2 years, I think Bush should stay on.

T B

on Nov 06, 2004

Just to play devils advocate, lets say that information is uncovered that Bush lost Ohio AND Florida due to voting irregularities, if not out right fraud

They have to find out, conclusively (not some questionable, massaged, partially scientific analysis), within 41 days after the election (which is when the electoral college casts it's votes). After the votes are cast it's a done deal as far as I'm concerned.

msladydeath

on Nov 06, 2004

You're in a deep hole and what do you do? Call for more shovels.

See you in China.

Cheers,
Daiwa

I will see you in Australia (well, actually, about 100 miles north west of australia, if I remember right)

Daiwa

on Nov 06, 2004

msladydeath -

That's one of the great things about the blogoshpere - it's self-correcting.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Daiwa

on Nov 06, 2004

There is more evidence of the meltdown of the left.

Link

In addition, WiseFawn is agitating on his blog about contesting the results in Ohio & Florida, making all sorts of crazy claims, and blocking any comments.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Psikotik

on Nov 07, 2004

I'm a Democrat, but let's face it folks, BOTH sides have their "dirty little tricks". I'd like to see who won the dead vote this election

. But seriously, the entire election system is a joke and could be made MUCH better. If I can use my ATM card anywhere in the world, why can't I have a card that let's me vote in any precinct, checks to make sure I'm not voting multiple times and reports my vote to a central database so that results are easily tabulated.
And yes, we need to let it go. No matter what happened the ref didn't call a foul, so play on........ And by the way what is DU?

bleedingheartliberal

on Nov 07, 2004

DU is Democratic Underground, a blog.

This just might materialize and be the "bombshell" of this case. My fingers are crossed Link

A Democratic Congressional candidate allegedly has the evidence. We'll see how this plays out...And by the way, anyone who doesn't think that every vote should be counted is unreasonable. And anyone who doesn't think the suspicious data from the Florida counties needs to be investigated needs a reality check. Now, I am going to prevent some info that the folks at DU put together, and you can all check this for yourself. Then I want you right wingers to try and dispute it.
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Link 1:
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Note the total vote count turnout with all the counties totalled up.
Link 2:
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Note the total number of provisional ballots
Link 3:
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At link 3, go across the columns and add all the numbers and note the total.

Point is:
Link 3 shows a total of 7,588,422. Link 2 shows a total of 7,350,900 from all the counties. If you subtract those numbers, there is a difference of 237,522 votes. Where did all the extra votes come from? Somebody please tell me, there might be a valid explanation....

Lee1776

on Nov 07, 2004

And by the way, anyone who doesn't think that every vote should be counted is unreasonable.

I don't know anybody that has said on this site that every vote should not be counted. What most people that you seem to disagree with is that every vote should be checked to see if it is legal first. But the Democrats call the disinfanchisement.

"Vote early, Vote often" remember?

That's My Two Cents

Zoomba

on Nov 07, 2004

Ok, I'm a democrat, I voted for Kerry, and I was disappointed (but not surprised) when Bush won. That said...

GIVE IT UP! I'm sick and tired of this conspiracy crap. I could go with it a bit in the last election when the whole thing came down to a few hundred votes (but after the 3d or 4th recount, it was settled in my mind), but this time it's not even close. Last time the left was crying about losing the electoral but winning the popular, now with Bush winning both we have nothing to complain about... so we pull this. Yes, if EVERY SINGLE vote in contention went to Kerry, things might be different. But you know what the chances of that are? Zero, zip, zilch.

Why can't we just admit we lost fair and square? We ran one of the worst campaigns immaginable. We ran one of the worst candidates possible from our party... Bush was strong, decisive, likable by the average citizen... and he spoke to what a MAJORITY of the country wants.

Take the loss, come back in 4 years and try to do a better job next time!

bleedingheartliberal

on Nov 07, 2004

It's not a matter of every single vote in contention going to Kerry, you are missing the point. It's a matter of hackers potentially hacking into the voting machines in Florida and fouling up the results. There is a growing amount of evidence that points to massive fraud.

For those interested, BlackBoxVoting.org is beginning to compile evidence.
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Zoomba, the "worst candidate possible" got more votes than any democrat in the history of this country.

LadyCleve

on Nov 07, 2004

Okay, here is some info copied from CNN from their exit poll. This shows the percentage of voters registered as Dem, Rep, or Ind, and the percentage of each who voted for Bush, Kerry, and Nader.

VOTE BY PARTY ID BUSH KERRY NADER
TOTAL 2004 2004 2004

Democrat (37%) 11% 89% 0%

Republican (37%) 93% 6% 0%

Independent (26%) 48% 49% 1%

That means that while 11% of voters registered as Democrats voted for the Republican presidential candidate, only 6% of Republicans voted for the opposition, with Independents leaning slightly to the left. Since Dems and Reps are represented equally (at least in this poll) I think it would show that the Democrats are themselves responsible for Bush's re-election.

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